Author: Backstage Banter

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In this episode, we’re joined by Laura Zingle—stage manager, freelancer, and connection-builder extraordinaire—to dive into the realities of always being on the hunt for the next gig. We talk about the freelance hustle, how to stay connected with people after the job ends, and why keeping relationships alive in this industry is about more than just networking—it’s about being remembered.

We discuss our approach to staying visible, building genuine connections, and navigating the in-between moments of freelance life. And we even touch on how tools like LinkedIn (yes, even Premium) can support that visibility when you’re not in the room.

If you’ve ever wondered how to keep doors open after the final curtain call, this one’s for you.

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We’re joined by the powerhouse Kate Poundstone—a stage manager whose career has spanned the loud, fast, and unpredictable world of Rock n Roll and now dives deep into the immersive exhibition space. Kate shares her journey through the ever-changing landscape of live entertainment and what it takes to survive (and thrive) when every gig, artist, and team demands something different.

We unpack what it really means to be a chameleon in this industry: adapting on the fly, managing chaos with grace, and building a thick skin when you’re constantly stepping into new environments. Kate brings thoughtful insight into the freelancer mindset, the challenge of always having to prove yourself, and how that compares to the stability and structure of long-term roles within state labor companies.

If you’ve ever felt the tension between reinvention and reliability in your career, this one’s for you.

Jay and Bryan dive into the highs, lows, and sharp turns that come with working in a constantly shifting industry. From unexpected show closures and sudden job losses to surprise opportunities that pop up out of nowhere, we talk about the ripple effects these moments can create—and how we each handle them. Are you someone who needs a plan and a backup plan? Or do you trust the chaos and roll with whatever comes your way? Either way, this one’s for you. Let us know where you land in the comments!

Pavel Kotov, International Casting Director and longtime creative force behind Cirque du Soleil joins Jay and Bryan to talk about the artistry behind building a show from the ground up. After two decades of discovering and casting extraordinary talent around the world, Pavel shares why he’s stepping into a new chapter—and how a simple message on LinkedIn sparked an unexpected opportunity. From global stages to fresh beginnings, this conversation dives into the magic of creativity, curiosity, and taking the next leap.

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In this episode, Jay and Bryan sit down with the incredible Liza Marie Hackman to talk about the art of making connections as a stage manager, the importance of not putting ourselves in a box, and how staying adaptable can open unexpected doors. And just when you think you know where the conversation is going, we dive into something a little…unpredictable. Could AI have a future in stage management? The answer might surprise you. Tune in for laughs, insights, and maybe even a glimpse into the future of our industry.